2007/07/09

"In God We Trust" Provokes My Disgust

OK...I admit it. I'm a bad frog. After participating in the first 'Blogs Against Theocracy' swarm, I thought I'd sit this most recent one out, not having anything particularly interesting to say on the subject. But when I read that, after minting 600M coins in the new 'Presidential' dollar series, the House is apparently unsatisfied and wants them redesigned to prominently display 'In God We Trust' on the coin face, I just had to write something.

You see...I'm with that minority of Americans against whom, most everybody else agrees, discrimination is just peachy. I'm speaking, of course, of atheists and agnostics. I'll never be elected to a high public office in this country because, let's face it, having an unbeliever in a position of power is dangerous. In many localities I wouldn't be allowed to teach school. Can't have a doubter influencing young minds, now can we? In fact, the ways in which we discriminate against non-believer's are too numerous to count, and although I don't think about it too often, this unspoken agreement that we're all people of faith is perhaps the most pernicious. It's like when you're family tells you, "Just come with us to church. It's important that we're all seen there together."

And where does that unquestioned tenet most often appear? ON OUR GOD-DAMNED MONEY!!! 'In God We Trust' stamped on every stupid coin--on every bill--as if having our legal tender emblazoned with a hollow protestation somehow gives the words meaning. What utter nonsense!

So...when I learned that, with the new dollar coin series, the words were being minimized and moved to the edge, I was actually kind of glad. It's not a perfect "separation of church and state" solution--after all we're not talking about establishment of religion here, just faith--but it seemed to be a decent compromise. Though now I guess...it's not good enough for the busy-bodies in the House. They want to hold up the whole program and waste more millions moving "In God We Trust" back onto the coin face.

And finally, here's a newsflash for those representatives whose faith is so shaky that they need a reminder on their money: Not all of us trust in God, and you people, quite frankly, have better things to do.

31 Comments:

We are watching the ‘Americanisation’ of Australia, (not in spelling yet fortunately). The sad trend is showing with religious fundamentalists and Catholic storm troopers steadily gaining a grip on key party factions.
They remain a rump, but a powerful and dangerous rump.
But God on our money? I expect that would lead to a real revolution here, led by our stand up comedians I expect.
In the often misinterpretation of freedom of religion, perhaps the Reich-Wingnuts would appreciate "In Allah We Trust" on a few coins.
Come on, Kvatch, you're entirely missing the point with your overblown rhetoric. You'll never be elected to public office because you're a frog.

And I certainly do not want my children coming home from school with warts or covered in frog urine just because they accidentally bumped into their slimy green teacher.

The fact that you are also an unbeliever is incidental.

(total snark, in case anyone missed it)
Cartledge... The real problems comes when, because they've become so vocal, the parties begin to knuckle under to the fundie's agenda.

As for the currency, you got rid of the sovereign, right? I'd think that replacing her with God wouldn't be too popular.

UndeniableL... Maybe "In Dog We Trust"? ;-)
kvatch, alas we are still struggling under the yoke of the British crown. At least they use a youthful likeness of Mrs Windsor on our currency.
"In God We Trust" doesn't really mean anything. It's a hold over, a vestige. Kind of like the prayer that's OK in Congress, but, for now, not OK in the local elementary school.

I'm much more concerned with what the results of the Roberts Court will be over the next few decades. My thought? You aint seen nothin' yet.
Julie... You mean...it's all because I'm a frog?! I don't know whether to be relieved or insulted! ;-)

Dave... You're right that the Robert's Court is going to be our bugaboo for long time, but I guess the point of the post was not so much the issue of "In God We Trust" per se, but rather it being indicative of a whole suite of petty discriminations against non-believers.
Cartledge...hold on... Was I confusing the Aussies with the New Zealanders? You're not telling me that they did something that your countrymen are unwilling to do? ;-)
If the Bible thumpers refused to spend these (and actually saved them) because "In God We Trust" isn't big enough on the coins, how would they work their way back into the pockets of the corpocracy?
And I also doubt the spirituality of any politician who invokes the name of any God for political gain, and feel sorry for any poor sap who falls for it.
Most of the right wing Christian wrong are true hypocrites anyway!

Ugh!
The old coins with "Corruption and Greed" stamped on them must not have gone over so well.
Tagging you for the eight things Kvatch. But only if you feel like it. I see one right here in this post. You're an agnostic and/or atheist frog. Or is that two things?
Lew... I'm with you. Pure political theater in my opinion. The original reasoning by the House and the Bureau of Engraving and Printing was that putting "In God We Trust" on the side was more aesthetically pleasing...and now, somehow, it's not?

Suzie-Q... "Ugh!" is right, but when you need an issue and are in the minority...
Aaron... :-) Perhaps we need something in the middle like "It ain't 7 pieces of silver, but..."

Zenyenta... Oh my dear Ms. Yenta, I've already been tagged. I'll supply the details over at your site.
"Was I confusing the Aussies with the New Zealanders?" Oh froggy, so out of touch with the wondrous South pacific.
In Australia there is a play on an old joke - Camilla (a horse)walked into a bar. The bartender said why the long face?
NZ actually have a Camilla fan club. Mrs McQuinn and the royals are well entrenched :(
I have to say I find the symbolism appropriate. The most materialistic society on the face of the planet putting "In God We Trust" on our COINS??? The irony kills me. You'd better laugh with me, little frog, or we might start crying and never stop.
Dude! How could you NOT have been tagged at least a half a dozen times as a Thinkin' Blogger???

Guess you're just such a natural for it (as this post proves) that my imagination supplied me with the "Knowledge" that you'd been. Hmmm... Difference between me and all those folks "Trusting" in the Sky Fairy? I've no problem acknowledging when I'm mistaken.

Well please accept this as a "you're it!", frogmigo! Anyone who's read you with any frequency at all knows you're amongst the most thoughtful kvetchers in our human zoo!

(Wow! You'd not received this yet and I "knew" you had... Amazing! Who says beliefs can't be wrong..? {-' )
Maybe we will get lucky and this whole stupid president coin thing will stop at .... oh.... 39 presidents?

Maybe we could fight for that?
I do not EVER. In. My. Life. want to have to look at Shrub or Shrub Sr. on a coin in my possession.
It makes them feel better to have that on the money for times like when they're at the titty-bar shoving ones into the young girls' panties.
Oh froggy, so out of touch with the wondrous South pacific.

Cartledge... I was just sure that one of the former South Pacific members of The British Empire had voted to become a republic. I now see from a bit of research that Australia voted down the referendum in 1999 (55% to 45%).

Sorry for the confusion.

I have to say I find the symbolism appropriate. The most materialistic society on the face of the planet putting "In God We Trust" on our COINS??? The irony kills me.

It is a delicious irony, isn't it? Sort of like a great pastry that leaves a bad aftertaste.
Hey Michael... Sorry for the confusion. I have been 'tagged' and now display the "Thinking Blogger" banner in the 'BlognonyHYPES' section at the right.

Sewmouse... I'm with you. In fact, I think that whole 'Presidential Coin' thing is a bad idea. Personally, I really like the Sacagawea dollars and don't think they needed replacing.

PT... "In God I trust that I'm not going to be condemned to hell for this...I hope."
Cash is becoming an anachronism.

If you really object to carrying and spending money bearing "In God We Trust", why not switch to paying all your bills with credit cards and checks. That way you can end all contact with the filthy lucre.
My name is Scott, and I have been free of Catholicism for 4 years. I always wonder where I fall as a Buddhist. Technically, I suppose Buddhists are atheists, but I do believe in a higher power. I just don't know if that power is the earth, a higher being, a tree, or a dog. I am leaning towards the tree because it provides so much necessary for life.
I once lost a job because of the Darwin Fish on my car. They'd never admit to it. But I know. Before they walked me out to the parking lot it was all, "When you start." After they saw the fish it was, "If you get the job."
no_slappz... Well I do use credit for a lot of stuff, but for public transit...nothing beats dollar coins.

But really, the post is about more about the subtle discrimination inherent in government supported protestations of faith. "In God We Trust" on the money is certainly a component of that but not the only example.
Scott... Technically, I don't think you fall in the atheist category, but you are definitely in the "people whose faith, or lack thereof, it's alright to make a mockery of in the United States," category.

Tink... Welcome to Blognonymous. I know how that goes. Sometimes the discrimination is blatant, sometimes subtle, but always offensive.
You wrote:

"Well I do use credit for a lot of stuff, but for public transit...nothing beats dollar coins."

We in NY City have Metrocards, a debit card for the subways and buses. Available in vending machines in every subway station. A monthly pass -- unlimited rides -- is $76.

You wrote:

"But really, the post is about more about the subtle discrimination inherent in government supported protestations of faith. "In God We Trust" on the money is certainly a component of that but not the only example."

There is no state religion in the US. Meanwhile, the US is the most pluralistic nation on Earth. And so it shall remain.
as if having our legal tender emblazoned with a hollow protestation somehow gives the words meaning. What utter nonsense!

Well said friend.
In the often misinterpretation of freedom of religion, perhaps the Reich-Wingnuts would appreciate "In Allah We Trust" on a few coins.

Rather than "In Allah We Trust," all our money should have at least one image of Allah. Because this is a sacrilege, al-Qaeda would no longer be able to use dollars. Osama bin Laden, meet Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Chapter 7 bankruptcy, Osama bin Laden.
James... Many thanks!

Mr_Blog... Brilliant! The breathtaking simplicity of the plan! :-)

no_slappz... Actually our monthly passes are one of the best transit deals in the nation, $45 for all you can ride. But ironically, I'm still not riding enough to need one. (Tryin' to do a lot of walking these days.)
Their god is Money, hahahahahaha!!

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